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anitil 14 hours ago [-]
If you're interested to see some high resolution images of the tapestry there's one here [0] and Stefan Milo recently did a tour [1] which I really enjoyed - it captures a bit of the wonder that I imagine seeing it in person must evoke
I was there last year. It's outstanding. It's also a nice little town.
scoot 7 hours ago [-]
Strange article to make the front page - only two paragraphs long, and no images of the tapestry that it barely talks about.
Not to mention the title - the tapestry was embroidered, not woven (if you exclude the ground fabric, which by itself is just a piece of cloth).
Wildgoose 11 hours ago [-]
It was woven by English embroiderers, so it was woven by the victims of the Norman Conquest.
kitd 8 hours ago [-]
Reading articles in advance of commenting usually helps
lll-o-lll 15 hours ago [-]
Paywalled
anitil 14 hours ago [-]
I tried archive.org but the captures I found were all paywalled as well
expedition32 13 hours ago [-]
I never really understood why the tapestry is considered French. The Norman aristocracy at the time did not take orders from the French crown.
Mainan_Tagonist 12 hours ago [-]
Humm, honest question, why did the royals from the Norman conquest on start speaking french?
I guess the Normans while not being "ethnically" Frank or Gallic at the time, had already been absorbed into "Frank Culture". They were also loose vassals to the king of France at the time as I recollect.
"Ah, l'Angleterre, cette colonie française qui a mal tourné." - G. Clémenceau
--Edited for clarity
makeitdouble 11 hours ago [-]
We have a very loose notion of what's "French".
In particular anything that happened in the vicinity of the current territory will fall into that, even if at that time it was different, or the people ruling over it where under a different crown.
Frontiers always moved a lot, and we came to accept them as pretty vague and sometimes not really relevant.
skew-aberration 13 hours ago [-]
I think calling the Norman invasion French was a simplification for children which outgrew its intended audience. They did absorb some of the French (Flemish) aristocracy by marriage and alliance though, and the Flemish played a large part of the colonization of Britain. I've also heard people refer to the subsequent invasions of Ireland and Wales as 'English'.
nephihaha 9 hours ago [-]
They had a substantial Breton component too. Neither Norse nor Flemish nor French.
bcjdjsndon 8 hours ago [-]
They left french words in the English vocabulary though I thought?
hn_submit 8 hours ago [-]
The Normans accepted the French king as their ruler, even though their lands were ruled separately.
I've always admired the French kings playing the long-game in this. Step by step, over centuries, the French kings took back more and more land from the Normans until it became completely French and the Normans were absorbed into the French kingdom.
hgomersall 7 hours ago [-]
Then got their heads chopped off. Arguably the failure of the British monarchs to become absolute monarchs was what saved them from the same fate (Charles I notwithstanding, him being the vent).
hn_submit 7 hours ago [-]
Maybe their leaders lost their heads but not the general Norman population. Massacres were common during that period but genocide was never performed, not even against Jews and Gypsies.
dfdydx 10 hours ago [-]
I am not sure that is the relevant criterion. The French king as a primus inter pares noble had initially very limited authority over a very limited area. Basically nothing in France was French then, even though they shared State structure and culture, if not strong, direct, central government power.
[0] https://www.bayeuxmuseum.com/en/the-bayeux-tapestry/discover...
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIh5pjzonGg
Not to mention the title - the tapestry was embroidered, not woven (if you exclude the ground fabric, which by itself is just a piece of cloth).
I guess the Normans while not being "ethnically" Frank or Gallic at the time, had already been absorbed into "Frank Culture". They were also loose vassals to the king of France at the time as I recollect.
"Ah, l'Angleterre, cette colonie française qui a mal tourné." - G. Clémenceau
--Edited for clarity
In particular anything that happened in the vicinity of the current territory will fall into that, even if at that time it was different, or the people ruling over it where under a different crown.
Frontiers always moved a lot, and we came to accept them as pretty vague and sometimes not really relevant.
I've always admired the French kings playing the long-game in this. Step by step, over centuries, the French kings took back more and more land from the Normans until it became completely French and the Normans were absorbed into the French kingdom.