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hysan 48 minutes ago [-]
Since there are no releases, I assuming this is still a WIP? It would explain why they list Linux and then don’t have any screenshots of it next to the other platforms. How it works is kinda light on details. I’m interested to learn more about the under the hood aspects of how they are translating everything to the different native toolkits.
vmg12 47 minutes ago [-]
Yeah, it's an early alpha they announced on twitter today.
solarkraft 1 hours ago [-]
Ambitious. I’m sure they know what their problems are and how to solve them, as evidenced by the agent being able to control the UI’s timing (and it being mentioned so far up). Getting the agent to get interactivity right is pretty hard otherwise.
sirjaz 16 minutes ago [-]
Why isn't Windows supported. Thr largest desktop platform out there?
zdragnar 12 minutes ago [-]
Because it is an early alpha release maybe?
yewenjie 1 hours ago [-]
Why isn't Android support there?
solarkraft 1 hours ago [-]
Presumably they’re focusing on a few platforms first. As they noted it’s coming though
doodlesdev 1 hours ago [-]
This is absolutely huge. If the Expo team can demonstrate that this development strategy is viable, we will finally see a resurgence of native applications and more efficient software, getting rid of the Electron bloat.
It's a long shot for now, though! There are lot of gritty nitty details they have to get right. One of the first issues I can imagine is this framework being great to use with Opus 5.5 but not good enough with i.e. Gemini 4 Argon or DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017, due to the overreliance on having AI models write the code.
tevon 37 minutes ago [-]
If anyone is going to get it right - I'd bet on the expo team. They know these sharp edges and have been building for them for years.
mrbombastic 21 minutes ago [-]
this tendency to prioritize agents over humans for new software DX makes me sympathize with the Butlerian jihad.
prmph 1 hours ago [-]
Is this satire?
jkahrs595 38 minutes ago [-]
Is this a serious question? Why would it be satire? Is it building something you don’t like or want? Say what you actually mean.
prmph 22 minutes ago [-]
It is weird. What does "agent native" mean? This looks like work that requires the use of agents to use properly.
Hence me thinking it is satire. Are we already at a point where libraries and frameworks are being written such that they require agents (from maybe paid frontier models) to properly use?
We live in strange times, if so.
Interestingly, I was just thinking of this problem today: how can I stick with react-like declarative UIs (like one I have developed myself) but yet have them abstracted over native UI frameworks of Apple, Android, even TUIs to produce native apps? What I would have expected is a fully deterministic runtime, compiler, or library approach to solving this, not an agent-driven "solution".
It's a long shot for now, though! There are lot of gritty nitty details they have to get right. One of the first issues I can imagine is this framework being great to use with Opus 5.5 but not good enough with i.e. Gemini 4 Argon or DeepSeek v4.1 Flash 1017, due to the overreliance on having AI models write the code.
Hence me thinking it is satire. Are we already at a point where libraries and frameworks are being written such that they require agents (from maybe paid frontier models) to properly use?
We live in strange times, if so.
Interestingly, I was just thinking of this problem today: how can I stick with react-like declarative UIs (like one I have developed myself) but yet have them abstracted over native UI frameworks of Apple, Android, even TUIs to produce native apps? What I would have expected is a fully deterministic runtime, compiler, or library approach to solving this, not an agent-driven "solution".